A REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

FEBRUARY 8, 2005

The Lake County Board of County Commissioners met in regular session on Tuesday, February 8, 2005, at 9:00 a.m., in Room 233, on the second floor of the Lake County Administration Building, Tavares, Florida. Commissioners present at the meeting were: Jennifer Hill, Chairman; Robert A. Pool; and Welton G. Cadwell.  Commrs. Catherine C. Hanson, Vice Chairman, and Debbie Stivender were not present at this meeting, due to illness and another commitment.  Others present were: James C. Watkins, Clerk; Sanford A. “Sandy” Minkoff, County Attorney; William “Bill” Neron, County Manager; Bob McKee, Tax Collector; Brad King, State Attorney; Howard “Skip” Babb, Jr., Public Defender; Chris Daniels, Lake County Sheriff; Wendy Taylor, Executive Office Manager, Board of County Commissioner’s Office; Barbara Lehman, Chief Deputy Clerk, County Finance; and Sandra Carter, Deputy Clerk, as well as staff from the County and the Clerk’s Office; representatives from various cities in the County; and the general public.

INVOCATION AND PLEDGE

Pastor Pete Bandstra, Chaplain for the Lake County Jail, gave the Invocation and led the Pledge of Allegiance.

AGENDA UPDATE

Mr. Bill Neron, County Manager, informed the Board that there was an Addendum No. 1 to the Agenda, containing one item for discussion under his business.

COUNTY MANAGER’S CONSENT AGENDA

On a motion by Commr. Pool, seconded by Commr. Cadwell and carried unanimously, by a 3-0 vote, the Board approved the following requests:

Growth Management

Request for approval to advertise Ordinance for adoption of Joint Land Development Regulations with the City of Clermont.

 

Request for approval to advertise Ordinance amending Section 10.02.02, entitled Temporary Housing during Construction.

 

Procurement Services

Request for approval to award contract for Professional Services to Starmer & Ranaldi Planning & Architecture, Inc., for Architecture; John S. Dickerson Architect, Inc., for Architecture; C. T. Hsu & Associates, Inc., for Architecture and Planning Services; Bumpus and Associates, Inc., for Architecture; Hartman & Associates, Inc., for Landscape Architecture and Geology; Miller Legg Associates, Inc., for Architecture and Planning Services; and Avcon, for Structural Engineer, in accordance with RFP No. 04-096 – On Call Architectural and Engineering Disciplines.

 

Request for approval to award non-competitive contract to The Innovations Groups, to provide Florida Leadership and Supervisory Skills Workshops, at an approximate cost of $27,860.00.


AGENDA UPDATE (CONT’D.

Mr. Bill Neron, County Manager, informed the Board that the Worksession:  Report on the Financial Condition of the Solid Waste Fund, scheduled to be heard this date, was being pulled from the Agenda and rescheduled for the March 15, 2005 meeting.

REPORTS – COUNTY ATTORNEY

AWARD OF BIDS TO HIGHEST BIDDERS FOR COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY DECLARED SURPLUS, EXCLUDING ONE ITEM; AND DONATION OF PARCELS TO HOMES IN PARTNERSHIP

 

Mr. Sandy Minkoff, County Attorney, explained this request, stating that it was the culmination of eight (8) different parcels that the Board has declared surplus.  He stated that the County went out for bid on each of the parcels and the bids ranged from a high of $81,000 down to $1,000.  He stated that staff was recommending approval to award the bids to the highest bidders on all the parcels, except Item No. 5, which consists of two parcels on Henry Street, in Umatilla, which staff is recommending that the Board reject, due to the fact that said parcels would benefit Homes in Partnership, which is willing to take the parcels and use them with the County’s SHIP Program, for the development of affordable housing to qualified persons or families.

On a motion by Commr. Cadwell, seconded by Commr. Pool and carried unanimously, by a 3-0 vote, the Board approved a request from the County Attorney for approval and award of bids to the highest bidders for county owned property declared surplus, for all parcels except Item No. 5 (Alternate Key Nos. 1212049 and 12120312), and execution of deeds; and to reject bids on Item No. 5 and donate those parcels to Homes in Partnership.

PRESENTATION

NATIONAL ENGINEERS WEEK IN LAKE COUNTY PROCLAMATION

On a motion by Commr. Pool, seconded by Commr. Cadwell and carried unanimously, by a 3-0 vote, the Board approved Proclamation No. 2005-15, declaring the week of February 20-26, 2005, as National Engineers Week in Lake County.

It was noted that the presentation of the Proclamation would be held at a later date.

Mr. Jim Stivender, Jr., Public Works Director, recognized some Lake County engineers who, along with some city engineers, have attended 8th grade classrooms throughout the County for the past 10 years, educating the students about the engineering profession, as well as the need for a college education.

WORKSESSION - MASTER SPACE STUDY

Commr. Hill, Chairman, informed those present that the Master Space Study scheduled to be discussed this date is a vision of where Lake County wants to be in the future.  She stated that staff would not be discussing details of the study, but how the Board wants to deliver services to their constituents and what they, as a Board, are looking for from the Constitutional Officers and the general public that is present.  She stated that they would be discussing the pros and cons and options of the study among themselves, however, noted that they were looking for a conceptual consensus of a few of the key elements of the study, which would be outlined by the consultants.  She stated that there will be several more discussions about the study in the near future and those individuals present this date will be included in those discussions, if they would like to participate.  She stated that a Worksession has been scheduled for Monday, February 14, 2005, and they would be welcome to attend it, as well.  She stated that Administrative Judge Don Briggs could not be present at this meeting, due to another commitment, however, noted that he had submitted some comments, for the Board’s review, contained in their backup material.

Mr. Steve Carter, Carter Goble Lee (CGL), consultants for the County’s Master Space and Facilities Plan, addressed the Board stating that he and Ms. Chloe Jaco, Associate, were present to explain where the County is in its master planning process.  He stated that, approximately six months ago, the County engaged his firm to work with staff, in trying to find future space needs for the County, projecting 20 years out from where the County is at the present time.  He asked those present to envision what the future might be in the County and how it will affect space requirements, noting that it all has to do with how government wants to perform and how government wants to react to its citizens and its constituents.  He stated that space is one of the necessary requirements associated with that and space does not grow, because government says they do not want to spend any more money on space.  He stated that the needs are still there, so his firm tries to work with the County on how to best meet those needs and how it can be accomplished in the most cost effective way.  He stated that he and Ms. Jaco would be presenting a series of options on how the County might achieve that, however, noted that they would need to discuss and gain from the Board, during this worksession, or in future worksessions, which direction they would like to choose for the County to go.  He stated that government has two basic approaches, when it comes to space - centralization of that space and the efficiency of having staff and department heads close by, or reaching out into the community where the constituents and citizens live and locating space that is needed within those communities.  He reviewed the Project Goals, which he elaborated on, as follows:

·         Quality work space for employees and the public

·         Equity in space for departments based on space standards

·         Strategic location of departments to foster inter/intra department communication and to better provide public services

·         Maximum use of existing county-owned facilities and sites

·         Cost effective solutions for new space and infrastructure

·         Incorporation of plan with county’s comprehensive long-range planning efforts

Mr. Carter displayed a list of the departments they worked with, in compiling their study, which ranged from General Government departments, such as the County Commissioners, the County Manager, the County Attorney, the County Finance and Budget Offices, and the Constitutional Officers to departments under Development Services, Health and Human Services, Judicial, and Public Safety.  He stated that his firm spent time interviewing staff from said departments and from the offices of the constitutional officers, as well as filling out surveys and obtaining growth indicators, as to what they are currently using and the adequacy and capacity of said space.  He stated that, in looking at said space, the study went beyond just county departments, it involved federal and state functions, as well, especially with regard to the Judicial and Health and Human Services side of it.  He stated that those needs are needs that are not necessarily generated by what the County dictates they might be, but by legislation and policy changes, noting that what happens in the Legislature may very much have an impact, which it is going to be found to be very true on the Judicial side in the near future.  He stated that, on the Public Safety side of it, there are special needs that go along with public safety that go beyond just space, which involves equipment, communications, and security.  He stated that, in terms of space that the County currently has, which is approximately 420,000 square feet, approximately 325,000 square feet of it is centralized in the Tavares area, with the rest of it being spread throughout the County in various locations.

Mr. Carter stated that growth is not going to occur just in the central part of the County, where the County seat is located, noting that the south part of the County, around Clermont, and the Lady Lake and Leesburg areas are major growth areas, as well.  He stated that all of these ask the question, “Where does government want to be located, in terms of its facilities and space and how it meets the needs of its citizens and their access to government?”  He stated that the process his firm used to look at what the County’s needs would be is as follows:

·         Use county’s adopted population projections

·         Profile existing departments (survey/interviews)

§         Mission/function

§         Personnel needs

§         Location needs

·         Review and update county’s adopted net space standards

·         Recommend department gross space standards

·         Project future personnel levels

§         Factors impacting growth

§         Historical trends

·         Forecast future space needs

§         Incremental/5-year growth projections

Mr. Carter stated that his firm feels it is important that the County look at this study and, if they only adopt one thing out of the process, adopt something that will allow the County and others to continue to do this kind of space planning on an annual up-date basis, which is to use some accepted space standard, because it will help them have the indicators they will need to do the following:

·         Make the most efficient use of county-owned and leased space

·         Establish uniformity and consistency among personnel in all departments

·         Establish uniformity and consistency in the allocation of space

·         Provide a uniform basis for forecasting space needs for personnel and equipment, in order to logically plan for the acquisition of future owned and leased space

·         Determine the probable cost of needed space

Mr. Carter displayed a chart, indicating the projected space needs, by category, being General Government, Development Services, Health and Human Services, Judicial, and Public Safety, at which time he noted that, in doing said study for a lot of counties around the country, his firm has found that the space needs of other counties is much greater than what they have found it to be for Lake County.  He stated that what the County has in existing square feet and what it would have, if it applied space standards against its current personnel, is generally much, much greater than what the County has.  He congratulated the County for looking at its space requirements and accommodating it as well as they have in the past.  He stated that the Projected Space by Category chart takes the County out over the next 15 years to the year 2020, projecting its growth to be approximately 750,000 square feet of space needs over that period of time.

Ms. Chloe Jaco, Associate, Carter Goble Lee, reviewed the process that her firm used for identifying the various options, as follows:

·         Inventory and evaluate existing county facilities

§         Owned facilities (66) total 686,626 square feet, with almost half rated an asset for 10 years or less

§         Leased facilities (32) total 69,086 square feet, at a current annual cost of $616,518

·         Compare projections and facilities to operational criteria

§         Physical proximity/relationship or separation of functional components

§         Consolidation of department staff at multiple locations

§         Need for addition/reduction of staff based on location and/or proximity

§         Ease or difficulty of achieving required levels of security and confidentiality of records

§         Ease or difficulty of limiting or enhancing public and/or staff access, to include issues of parking, convenience, and safety

§         Minimize staff disruptions to existing operations

·         Identify development options with county staff

·         Associate a probable project cost in 2004 dollars to each option

§         Add a building grossing factor to space projections (35% for Judicial and 20% for Other)

§         Multiply building gross square feet by an average construction cost per square feet ($250 for Judicial and $175 for Other)

§         Calculate annual debt service based on 30 years at 4.5%

Ms. Jaco stated that, once her firm has a preferred option, or direction, they will factor it into the master plan.  She stated that, to analyze the options, it came down to two key things, being:

·         Downtown Tavares Government Complex

§         Projections require development of another complex

§         Constant variables

-          Demolition of Public Works’ Facilities Maintenance  Building and Clerk’s Mail Center

-          Utilization of Clerk’s Public Records Center and Records Storage for Clerk functions only

-          Incurring minor tenant upfit costs for department moves downtown

§         Decisions

-          Location of County Administration

-          Expansion of Judicial Complex

-          Demolition of Sheriff Headquarters/Old Jail

·         Other County Locations

§         Population growth and existing provision of services supports presence in  -            North Lake, South Lake (Clermont), and Leesburg

§         Decisions

 -          Lease or Own

            Mr. Watkins, Clerk, questioned, with respect to the demolition of the Clerk’s Mail Receiving Center, whether that function was included somewhere else within a protected area and whether it would be independent of the other buildings, noting that one of the reasons it was located outside of the Courts’ facilities and Administration was because of the threats that the Country was experiencing at that time.  He stated that, if it was going to be put back in with the other buildings, it would change its function, to which Ms. Jaco responded that, if it is incorporated, there are certain ways to segregate it from the other buildings, however, noted that the issue would have to be addressed.

Ms. Jaco stated that, in focusing on other county locations, the population growth, and existing levels of service that are already provided, there will be a presence of government functions in the north Lake County area, although there is still some debate as to exactly where that best location is.  She stated that decisions regarding the other county locations comes down to leasing space, or owning space, and, if the County decides in the future that they want to own space, the needs do support the establishment of certain complexes in certain key cities.  She stated that the focus at the present time is more on the downtown Tavares area, because it currently has the most critical space needs, at which time she displayed an aerial of the downtown area, indicating those buildings that, in the various options, will be removed and used for expansion purposes, or parking, including the Sheriff’s Administration Building, as well as an aerial of the south Tavares landfill site, where it is anticipated that future development will occur.

            Ms. Jaco discussed the various options, as well as their advantages and disadvantages, as follows:

OPTION 1 - KEEP COUNTY ADMINISTRATION DOWNTOWN, DEMOLISH OLD JAIL, AND EXPAND JUDICIAL

           

Elements

 

·         Keep County Administration Downtown

·         Use County Administration Building for General Government Functions

·         Demolish Old Jail

·         Use Public Works Building for Judicial Functions

·         Expand Judicial Complex

·         Build New Tavares Complex for Constitutional Offices except Clerk, Development Services, Health and Human Services, Public Safety, and Sheriff

·         Build/Lease New Future Complex in South Lake and North Lake

 

Advantages/Disadvantages

 

·         Good Functional Grouping of Departments

·         Demolition of Old Jail Reduces Tavares’ Parking Deficit and Provides Space for New Parking

·         Use of Public Works for Judicial Functions Reduces Expansion of Judicial Complex

·         Expansion of Tavares Central Energy Plant

·         Downtown Parking Need of 667 Spaces by 2020

 

Total New Construction Cost 2020                                                                $104,681,355

 

Mr. Watkins questioned, with regard to the Element that suggests that a new Tavares complex be constructed for all the Constitutional Officers except the Clerk, whether they were excluding the County Comptroller functions of the Clerk from the new site.

Ms. Jaco stated that her firm grouped the departments by functional categories and that part of the Clerk’s Office was grouped under General Government, because it is more related to General Government functions than Judicial functions; therefore, since that option suggests that the County Administration Building be utilized for General Government functions, the County Comptroller functions of the Clerk would stay in the Administration Building.

Commr. Pool questioned how many new parking spaces the County would benefit from by demolishing the Sheriff’s Administration Building and was informed that it would be approximately 90 spaces.

Mr. Bob McKee, Tax Collector, questioned what factors are used when calculating parking space needs and was informed that it is based on the Tavares Parking Code of one space per 250 square feet of building.  He stated that that calculation was out the window, noting that, when the County builds branch offices, they estimate about 60% higher than what the Code requires as an actual need.

Ms. Jaco stated that the beauty of moving a lot of the functions to the new complex is that it will allow a lot more freedom in determining what the proper need is for parking, etc.  

Mr. Watkins stated that he could understand why the Sheriff’s Office might be moved from their current facility, the Sheriff’s Administration Building, however, questioned whether there was any consideration given for the use of that facility.  He stated that it is a multimillion dollar asset and, if he owned the building, he would not be quick to demolish it.

Ms. Jaco stated that the building is a solid structure, however, noted that it would not be easy to renovate on the interior, because of the way that it is constructed, since it was the old Jail.  She stated that the Sheriff’s Office needs to be relocated, because of their size and needs.  She continued to review the Options, as follows:

OPTION 2 – KEEP COUNTY ADMINISTRATION DOWNTOWN, KEEP OLD JAIL, AND EXPAND JUDICIAL

 

Elements

 

·         Keep County Administration Downtown

·         Use County Administration Building for General Government Functions

·         Keep Old Jail and Sheriff Headquarters Downtown

·         Use Public Works Building for Sheriff Functions

·         Expand Judicial Complex

·         Build New Tavares Complex for Constitutional Offices Except Clerk, Development Services, Health and Human Services, and Public Safety

·         Build/Lease New Future Complex in South Lake and North Lake

 

Advantages/Disadvantages

 

·         Good Functional Grouping of Departments

·         Use of Old Jail Adds to Tavares’ Parking Deficit and Does Not Provide Space for New Parking

·         Use of Old Jail and Public Works Building by Sheriff Increases Expansion of Judicial Complex

·         Expansion of Tavares Central Energy Plant

·         Downtown Parking Need of 851 Spaces by 2020

 

Total New Construction Cost 2020                                                                $96,756,903


OPTION 3 – MOVE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, DEMOLISH OLD JAIL, AND EXPAND JUDICIAL

 

Elements

 

·         Use County Administration Building for Judicial Functions (Public Defender, State Attorney, Guardian Ad Litem and Probation) and Supervisor of Elections

·         Demolish Old Jail

·         Use Public Works Building for Clerk Functions

·         Expand Judicial Complex

·         Build New Tavares Complex for Constitutional Offices Except Clerk and Elections, County Administration, Development Services, Health and Human Services, Public Safety, and Sheriff

·         Build/Lease New Future Complex in South Lake and North Lake

 

Advantages/Disadvantages

 

·         Good Functional Grouping of Departments

·         Demolition of Old Jail Reduces Tavares’ Parking Deficit and Provides Space for New Parking

·         Use of County Administration and Public Works Building for Judicial Functions Reduces Expansion of Judicial Complex

·         Expansion of Tavares Central Energy Plant

·         Downtown Parking Need of 482 Spaces by 2020

 

Total New Construction Cost 2020                                                                $96,125,333

 

OPTION 4 – MOVE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND KEEP OLD JAIL

 

Elements

 

·         Use County Administration Building for Judicial Functions (Public Defender, State Attorney, Guardian Ad Litem, Probation, Court Administration and Non-Custody Courtrooms)

·         Use Old Jail for Clerk Functions

·         Use Public Works Building for Clerk Functions

·         Build New Tavares Complex for Constitutional Offices Except Clerk, County Administration, Development Services, Health and Human Services, Public Safety, and Sheriff

·         Build/Lease New Future Complex in South Lake and North Lake

 

Advantages/Disadvantages

 

·         Use of Old Jail Adds to Tavares’ Parking Deficit and Does Not Provide Space for New Parking

·         Use of County Administration, Old Jail, and Public Works Building Eliminate Need for Judicial Complex Expansion

·         Fragmentation of Judicial Functions at Several Facilities

·         Expansion of Judicial Functions Not Possible Until New Construction Completed and Tenants Relocate

·         Increased Tenants and New Construction at New Tavares Complex

·         Downtown Parking Need of 362 by 2020

 

Total New Construction Cost 2020                                                                $79,679,880

Mr. Watkins interjected that he would be in opposition to anything that would fragment the Clerk’s Office.

Ms. Jaco stated that she would be covering that issue, at which time she referred to the process that was used to evaluate the options, which she elaborated on, as follows:

·         Identify Evaluation Criteria Categories and Items

§         Operational Criteria

§         New Construction Cost

§         Parking Need

§         Key Decisions

·         Rank Criteria Items

·         Compare Results

Ms. Jaco stated that Option 1 had the highest rating, with Option 4 having the lowest, because of the fragmentation of Judicial and certain other functions.  She questioned the importance of construction costs, downtown parking needs, keeping County Administration downtown, demolishing the Old Jail/Sheriff Headquarters, and expanding the Judicial Complex.

Ms. Dottie Keedy, Administrator, City of Tavares, informed the Board that she did not have an opinion on where the various departments move to, she was just interested in the impact on parking in the downtown area, noting that it is a huge issue that has not been addressed.  She stated that she was also interested in what happens with the new complex that is being proposed, because it will be located in Tavares, as well.

Commr. Cadwell stated that one way to solve the parking problem would be to move as many departments out of downtown Tavares as possible, however, noted that he feels it will cause a negative effect on the foot traffic that is needed in the downtown area.  He stated that the County is going to have to figure out how to balance that.

Sheriff Chris Daniels stated that it did not matter to him where his department is located, however, noted that he would have to have an office in Tavares, but preferably out of the downtown area, because of congestion.  He pointed out a couple of things that he was not sure the consultants had looked at that are of concern to him, which are (1) their vehicle maintenance facility in Eustis, which he noted is undersized and antiquated; and (2) their heliport hanger, currently located at the Leesburg Municipal Airport, which they have leased for close to 20 years from the City of Leesburg that is about to run out, at which time the City is going to bill them full price for not only the site that the hanger is on, but the cost of the hanger, as well, so it is another cost that is coming down the road for his office that will come out of their budget.  He then suggested that they lease some storage space in the City of Leesburg, as well as in the City of Tavares.

            Ms. Jaco stated that the Sheriff’s aviation unit was considered a constant variable, noting that it was a decision they all made as a group, because it seemed like that was the most logical place to keep it.  She stated that, with regard to the Sheriff’s fleet, they felt that the Public Works garage and the Sheriff’s garage could be merged into one large facility at the proposed south Tavares complex, as opposed to two separate facilities, which she noted was discussed with staff.  She stated that it was part of the plan and the vision for that complex.

            Mr. Neron, County Manager, interjected that staff discussed the possibility of co-locating the two departments, but not necessarily operationally under one unit.

            Discussion occurred regarding the issue of leased space, at which time Commr. Cadwell stated that he was not convinced that leasing property was a bad thing for government, because it keeps it on the tax roll, if the County outgrows the space it can move, and there is no maintenance costs involved.  He stated that he would like to see a true analysis of how much it actually costs the County to lease property, noting that he feels it is better to lease property, than build more and more buildings.  He stated that everyone knows, because of the growth that the County is experiencing, a lot of shopping centers are going to become empty as new ones are built, and he feels the County could be an anchor store for some of those shopping centers, to help bring in customers.

            Ms. Jaco stated that the goal is for the County to use the Master Plan as a guide, noting that her firm has given the County the figures, based upon department needs, so, if the County decides to lease space, they will have a guide telling them how much space they will need.

            Commr. Pool stated that he would disagree with some of Commr. Cadwell’s comments, noting that, whether the County leases space or not, those spaces are going to be leased by someone else, who will be paying the taxes – they are not going to disappear, or go away.  He stated that he was not suggesting that the County vacate all their leased spaces tomorrow, however, pointed out the fact that they could construct a building, own it, and maintain it far cheaper than what they pay in rent, on a per square foot basis.

            Commr. Cadwell stated that, if staff were to do an analysis of it, they would see tax dollars coming back to the County, plus it would help promote the County’s economic development, because the County would be leasing from businesses in the County.

            Commr. Pool stated that he would not disagree with that point, however, noted that, when the County constructs a building, they create construction jobs and they have to pay maintenance on the building, etc.  He stated that he felt the County needed to take a good look at the long term benefits of both.

            Commr. Cadwell stated that he and Mr. McKee, Tax Collector, had discussed the issue of how many times per year the average person has to come to Tavares for anything, at which time Mr. McKee stated that there are very few recurring services that the offices in downtown Tavares provide, noting that, if an individual is going to the Property Appraiser’s Office for a homestead exemption, it is something that they will probably only do once;  if they are pulling a building permit, it is something that they will probably never do themselves; and, if they register to vote, it is something that is only done once.  He stated that, if they go to the Clerk’s Records Office, it could be a recurring activity, however, pointed out the fact that there are very few government recurring activities where the service is not best provided where the customer is located.

            Commr. Cadwell stated that he wanted the County to do everything it could to keep what offices it could in downtown Tavares, noting that, in his opinion, it is the only thing that is going to help the economy of the City, other than additional housing.  He stated that, with regard to the Sheriff’s Administration Building, when the County remodeled it the last time the Board talked about whether or not they wanted to stick more money into it and now, after the County has spent all the money it did remodeling the building, it is still not a functional building, because it was originally built as a jail.  He stated that he felt the building should be demolished; that the Sheriff’s Office, Public Safety, and Public Works should be moved to the south end of Tavares; that the Judicial Center should be expanded; that most of the administrative offices should be kept in downtown Tavares; and that, for any services that need to be provided to the outlying areas of the County, space should be leased.

            Commr. Pool stated that he feels it is very important that the Sheriff and the other constitutional officers be involved in every part of this process, thus, the purpose of this meeting.  He stated that he believes the downtown area should be the hub, where most of the activity occurs, however, noted that the County needs the additional space and that he feels everyone will agree that the south end of Tavares will be a good location for the new complex.  He stated that people will look at the cost of constructing the complex, however, pointed out the fact that the County is going to be in business for a long time to come, so it might as well prepare a plan for the future.

            Sheriff Daniels stated that, like Mr. Watkins, he would be against any option that would fragment his office any more than it already is, noting that it creates problems for his office, when they have to spread out.  He stated that approximately 15 years ago, before the old Jail was renovated, the Sheriff’s Office occupied approximately six different offices in downtown Tavares and they had some offices in some of the other towns, as well.  He stated that they are starting to get that way again, which creates supervision problems.

            Mr. Watkins stated that it makes sense for his office, as the County’s Comptroller, to be included in an area where the Board of County Commissioners will be located, rather than excluded, because it is better for management of the Comptroller functions.  He stated that, if that function were moved away from the Board, it would fragment the offices, so he could not see the Board doing that.  He stated that the same holds true for the other functions of the Clerk’s Office, noting that, if they take certain things that his office does and fragments them into the old Public Works building, that space will probably serve those functions, but the management of those functions will become more costly and the management is what he is concerned about.  He stated that he would like to have the management team together, as well as those people that he supervises that do like things, such as criminal courts, civil courts, and traffic tickets.

            Mr. Skip Babb, Public Defender, stated that he did not want his office to be fragmented either, noting that he would not be in favor of Option 4, which shows his office being moved back into the Administration Building.  He stated that Chief Judge Don Briggs states in his letter that he feels there are some real problems with Options 3 and 4, as well, as far as the Judiciary, the Public Defender, and the State Attorney’s Offices are concerned.  He stated that they are ready to do what the Board tells them to do, but would ask that they try to keep those offices together.

            Mr. Brad King, State Attorney, stated that he has 20 lawyers, give or take, who spend all their time related to the Courts directly and, when they go to court, they go with big carts full of files, because they handle one to two hundred cases at a time.  He stated that hauling those files across a parking lot seems relatively simple, until they have a judge tell them that they have to be at the Courthouse at a certain time, during a pouring down rainstorm, and they have no way to get their files across the parking lot, without getting them soaked.  He stated that, if his office is separated from the core of buildings, it is going to cause them a lot of problems.

            Mr. Watkins interjected that another thing to consider is the Court Clerks’ interaction with the files, noting that they go up and down the floors between the Clerk’s Office and the State Attorney and Public Defender’s Offices continually.  He stated that, if the State Attorney and the Public Defender’s Offices are relocated away from the Clerk’s Office, it would be taking a step backwards.

            Commr. Cadwell questioned whether the Clerk foresees any changes over the next 10 to 15 years, with regard to the electronic filing of cases, at which time Mr. Watkins stated that his office hopes to someday see “paperless courts”, however, noted that he keeps seeing more and more of the same.  He stated that people are still going to come to the Courthouse to pay traffic tickets and such, even though they can mail their traffic fines in at the present time, because they want to hand the money to a person that they can see eyeball to eyeball and know that the money has been received.  He also pointed out the fact that a lot of the County’s citizens are older citizens and some of them do not like computers.

            Commr. Cadwell stated that the Board can pick the cheapest option, but, when it all comes down, they are going to oblige the needs of the Constitutional Officers - they always have.

            Commr. Pool stated that he does not feel there is going to be a solution that is going to put everyone in a perfect location and that is not going to be somewhat disruptive; however, he feels that there are opportunities for everyone to work together and be on the same page.  He stated that they are here to work with the Constitutional Officers, not against them.

            It was noted that the consultants put together the four options from the information they collected, but the Board does not have to stay within those four options, they can mix and match however they please.

            Mr. Neron, County Manager, stated that, in order for the consultants and staff to do a more detailed plan, they will need direction from the Board as to how they want to approach the matter, at which time the consultants and staff can bring further information back to the Board.

            Commr. Pool suggested that the Commissioners take another tour of the Sheriff’s Administration Building, to refresh their memories about the building and determine whether it would be worth keeping.

            It was noted that this process will not happen overnight, that there will be many more discussions to come, before a spade is turned on the project.

            Mr. Watkins stated that a decision he feels the Board should make and make quickly is to provide a parking garage, noting that he feels it is a great idea.  He stated that it does not need a great deal of discussion, other than picking a location, deciding how many spaces will be needed, and adding additional spaces to that, so that they are building for the future.  He stated that the County needs to get on with it, noting that he feels to study it would just be a waste of money.

            Mr. McKee stated that all four of the options presented has the Tax Collector and the Property Appraiser moving to the south part of Tavares; therefore, if that is, in fact, what the Board would like for them to do, he and the Property Appraiser, Mr. Ed Havill, are prepared to do so.  He stated that, at that point, all the Board will have to decide is what the footprint, geographically, will be at the proposed site for their respective offices – whether they want a campus-like setting, or a single building.  He stated that, if the Board plans to build a campus-like setting, where there will be buildings equivalent to modulars that will fit together, then there is nothing that is prohibiting them from moving forward, except the Board’s concurrence that that is what they will recommend.  He stated that he does not want to be sitting at a meeting discussing this same issue three years from now.  He stated that parking for his customers is a nightmare and an everyday occurrence, noting that, without exception, everyone that comes through his office comments about the parking situation and the new complex would alleviate that problem.  He stated that he does not care where his office is located, as long as it can accommodate parking.  He stated that he feels it is something that needs to be done quickly.

            Commr. Cadwell stated that he did not want to be fragmented either, noting that he wants to be able to go to a department, if he needs to, or take a citizen to a department, if he needs to.  He stated that he feels it is better for management, on the County Manager’s part, if everybody is located as close as they can be.  He stated that the Board has to figure in what is best for downtown Tavares, as well.

            Mr. McKee stated that, with regard to his office, when they moved into their present space in the Historical Courthouse, Mr. T. Keith Hall, the former Tax Collector, shared with him the fact that he was asked not to provide those services pertaining to the Department of Motor Vehicles, which he noted is the single largest government function in Lake County, in terms of customer service, in the Tavares office, because there was no way to accommodate the traffic that it would generate, so he did not do it.  He stated that, if his office were to be moved to the proposed complex, on the south end of town, they would make it a full service office, so the needs in south Lake County and in Eustis would become somewhat mitigated.  He noted that he would need approximately 15,000 square feet of space and, since the Property Appraiser’s needs are probably a little larger than his, they would probably be talking about a little over 30,000 square feet.

            Mr. Neron suggested that the Board wait until the next Worksession, which is scheduled to be held Monday, February 14, 2005, to make any decisions.

            Sheriff Daniels brought to the attention of the Board the need to do something with his vehicle maintenance facility in Eustis, noting that it has almost become a serious problem for his office.

            Commr. Cadwell stated that, based on what decision the Board makes regarding the Sheriff’s Administration Building, it may still be up in the air, but he feels that everybody is going to agree that the County would be better served by having the Sheriff’s Office located at the proposed complex.

            Commr. Pool concurred, providing Sheriff Daniels is happy with that decision.

            Commr. Cadwell stated that at least three of the Commissioners agree that the Sheriff,  Public Safety, the Property Appraiser, and the Tax Collector would be better served being relocated to the proposed south Tavares complex.  He stated that they could discuss the issue of Public Works being relocated at a later date.

RECESS AND REASSEMBLY

 At 10:30 a.m., the Chairman announced that the Board would recess for 15 minutes.

            CITIZEN QUESTION AND COMMENT PERIOD

            No one present wished to address the Board.

            ADDENDUM NO. 1

            REPORTS – COUNTY MANAGER

            CANCELLATION OF MARCH 22, 2005 BOARD MEETING

            Mr. Bill Neron, County Manager, requested approval to cancel the March 22, 2005 Board of County Commissioner’s Meeting and reschedule it for March 29, 2005, due to the fact that Commrs. Stivender and Hanson will not be available on March 22nd.

            On a motion by Commr. Cadwell, seconded by Commr. Pool and carried unanimously, by a 3-0 vote, the Board approved the cancellation of the March 22, 2005 Board of County Commissioner’s Meeting and rescheduled it for March 29, 2005.

            OTHER BUSINESS

AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT RESOLUTION

           

            On a motion by Commr. Cadwell, seconded by Commr. Pool and carried unanimously, by a 3-0 vote, the Board approved Resolution No. 2005-16, appointing Ms. Hillary Cook to the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee, as the USDA Rural Development Representative, to complete the unexpired term ending November 24, 2005.

            REPORTS – COUNTY ATTORNEY

TRANSFER OF MONTVERDE COMMUNITY BUILDING TO TOWN OF MONTVERDE

 

            Mr. Sandy Minkoff, County Attorney, informed the Board that this request involved the formal transfer of the Certificate of Title for the Montverde Community Building.  He stated that staff was recommending approval of the request.

            On a motion by Commr. Pool, seconded by Commr. Cadwell and carried unanimously, by a 3-0 vote, the Board approved a request from the County Attorney for approval to transfer the Certificate of Title for the Montverde Community Building to the Town of Montverde.

            REPORTS – COUNTY ATTORNEY

RETAINING OF SPECIAL MASTER FOR CODE AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION CONFLICT CASES

           

            Mr. Sandy Minkoff, County Attorney, informed the Board that Mr. Bruce Duncan serves as a Special Master for Code Enforcement cases, however, noted that he occasionally has a conflict of interest with some of the cases, so the County sent out proposals for a backup person and Mr. Walter Thielhart submitted the lowest bid.  He stated that Mr. Thielhart is not an attorney, but is a board certified mediator.  He stated that his wife currently works for the County; however, staff obtained an opinion from the Ethics Commission that there is not a problem with that.  He stated that staff was recommending approval of the request.

            On a motion by Commr. Cadwell, seconded by Commr. Pool and carried unanimously, by a 3-0 vote, the Board approved a request from the County Attorney for approval to retain Mr. Walter E. Thielhart as Special Master for Code and Land Development Regulation conflict cases.

            REPORTS – COMMR. POOL – DISTRICT 2

            PIG ON THE POND EVENT

            Commr. Pool reminded those present about the Pig on the Pond event that is scheduled to be held in south Lake County, in March of this year, so that they could mark it on their calendars.

            REPORTS – COMMR. CADWELL – DISTRICT 5

ADDITION OF NON-VOTING MEMBER TO INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY

           

Commr. Cadwell informed the Board that he had discussed at a past Board Meeting the option of adding another non-voting member to the Industrial Development Authority (IDA), being Lake Technical Center.  He asked that the Board direct the County Attorney’s Office to start the process necessary to make those changes and he would take it before the IDA at their next meeting, scheduled to held in March of this year.

It was noted that the County Attorney’s Office would do so.

REPORTS – COMMR. HILL – CHAIRMAN AND DISTRICT 1

PUBLIC PARTICIPATION TOUR MEETING FOR PURPOSE OF UPDATING COUNTY’S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

 

Commr. Hill informed the Board that the County held its first Public Participation Tour Meeting, for the purpose of obtaining input regarding the County updating its Comprehensive Plan, on Monday, February 7, 2005, and that the people attending the meeting felt it was a good meeting and were very receptive to the process.

Mr. Gregg Welstead, Deputy County Manager/Growth Management Director, stated that a good cross section of the citizens of Lake County attended the meeting, such as a number of residents, realtors, environmentalists, representatives of the Palatlakaha Environmental Agricultural Reserve (P.E.A.R.) Park, and Lake County School Board Member Becky Elswick, and that the topics that were brought up for discussion ranged from transportation to economic development to schools.  He stated that it was a good cross section of ideas.   

Commr. Cadwell stated that everybody that he has talked to that has had any involvement in the process has been pleased with it and thinks the County is doing it the right way.  He commended staff for doing a good job.

Mr. Bill Neron, County Manager, stated that the Board is receiving a monthly report, with the schedule of meetings.  He stated that he talked with staff about the fact that, should they start getting behind on any of the items, he wanted an early warning system in place that would alert them that something is lagging, so that they can determine what to do to correct the problem, enabling them to stay on schedule.  He stated that staff is considering it their top priority this year – to keep that master plan process on schedule, including the citizen participation process.

Commr. Hill interjected that Channel 13 was filming, during the first meeting that was held, and that she hopes, in seeing that report, the general public will see that it is a very citizen friendly process and one that is not so complicated that they cannot grasp it and have a part in it.  She stated that she feels there will be more citizen participation, once that report is aired and the citizens see that it is a hands on, customer friendly process.  She commended staff for doing a very good job in relaying that message to the public.

It was noted that the next scheduled meetings are as follows:

Astatula – Tuesday, February 8, 2005

Paisley – Thursday, February 10, 2005

Clermont – Friday, February 11, 2005

 

REPORTS – COMMR. POOL – DISTRICT  2

EXPANSION OF LIBRARY IN CLERMONT

 

Commr. Pool thanked Mr. Bill Neron, County Manager, and the library staff for being present at the meeting that was held recently in Clermont, for the purpose of discussing the opportunity of expanding its library.  He stated that approximately 55 to 60 people attended the meeting, who commented about the expansion.  He stated that it was an important meeting and he appreciated those individuals who attended the meeting for doing so.

It was noted that some of the individuals who attended the meeting wanted to have the library in downtown Clermont, but there were also some individuals who stated that they did not want it in the downtown area.

Mr. Neron stated that the purpose of the meeting was for the architects to obtain some input. He stated that their first goal is to do the grant application by April 1, 2005, however, noted that the County does not need a site identified for the grant.  He stated that they will be looking at not only the tearing down of the existing building and building new on the site, but looking at other potential sites in the area, as well.  He stated that staff will be bringing the Board and the general public a report regarding the matter at a later date.

Commr. Pool stated that someone mentioned the fact that Minneola is a growing area, so why build just one major library, when one could be constructed in Minneola, perhaps one at the college, and another in Clermont, giving the area three small facilities, rather than just one large facility.  He stated that he felt it was an issue that needed further discussion.

Mr. Neron stated that, as part of the space study, there is a library component that will be coming forward, as a separate addendum, which will give the Board some ideas for future library needs and a master plan for libraries.

Commr. Cadwell questioned whether the City of Clermont was going to participate in the project at any level, since the library is going to be a county library.

Commr. Pool stated that the City was never involved with the library, other than contributing dollars, because it was an independent library (Cooper Memorial Library), but today it is in the County system and, since it is a county facility, the City is expecting the County to build it.

It was noted that the City has offered to donate the site for the library, so they feel the County should build it.

Mr. Neron, County Manager, stated that the County does not have any dollars currently budgeted to build the library.

Commr. Pool interjected that he would be pleading with the Board in the future about helping him find dollars for that facility and that the County would need and want Clermont’s participation.  He noted, for informational purposes, that the City of Leesburg is building a new library, at a cost of $6 million, and it is being done entirely by the City, independent of the County.  He stated that they want the library in Clermont to be a part of the County system, rather than be independent, but he feels the City should help with the process and some of the funding of it.

ADJOURNMENT

            There being no further business to be brought to the attention of the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:00 a.m.

 

 

 

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JENNIFER HILL, CHAIRMAN

 

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JAMES C. WATKINS, CLERK